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Post by MNS on 06 Dec 2009, 13:53

What kind of stove to UAZ 469 can be placed (except of course home :) ), With minimal modifications. "
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Post by Tractor on 06 Dec 2009, 13:58

MNS wrote: What kind of stove to UAP 469 can be placed (except of course home :) ), With minimal modifications. "

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Post by MNS on 06 Dec 2009, 14:27

vosmeryshnuyu?
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Post by Sergio31519 on 06 Dec 2009, 23:58

Instead, home or addition?
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Post by MNS on 07 Dec 2009, 10:50

instead of the native
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Post by demon on 08 Dec 2009, 01:14

MNS wrote: instead of the native

a sense uazovsky radiator area and so most
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Post by MNS on 08 Dec 2009, 10:44

I have no stove in the car (not the default, not more), bought without a stove.
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Post by ale on 08 Dec 2009, 10:47

MNS wrote: I have a stove in the car there (not the default, not more), bought without a stove.

Well, if only summer operation, then it is certainly not a problem :rofl:
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Post by MNS on 10 Dec 2009, 13:26

Need ventelyator on uazovskuyu stove
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Post by Victor on 10 Dec 2009, 21:47

demon wrote:
MNS wrote: instead of the native

a sense uazovsky radiator area and so most

Supporting.
Native UAZovskaya stove - enough to UAZ. With non-insulated sheeting in -50 without gloves can ride.
I wrote already that M-412 with the native oven and ZiLovskoy at the feet of the passenger is already -25 without gloves - hands kocheneli ......
The issue may be that the oven "zasrana" scum or a portion of tubes full of loose scale. Not prenebrigayte this. Can calculations (if you like) to show the numbers - how many "sdaet" half a millimeter scale ....
Where scum?
Nakipaet especially hard on the tubes of the stove, and then - the soul of the owner of freezing UAZ, if the cooling system to "enjoy" Vodicka.
Damn! which only water is not shipped! If you take out of the tap hot water in winter, that would warm up the engine this morning and poured into the night (very often in organizations have been doing!) - A scale inside the pipes - just "press"!
There is still a very bad option when you fill up shortages Tosol (antifreeze) water. The concentration of substances responsible for "antikoroziyu" falls below normal and the cooling system starts to corrode. Osban - Aluminium part. Hence - the dirt from the products of corrosion in the cooling system.

Tip:
1.Poprobuyte off the stove, assemble the system: Stove + capacity + circulation pump (say - Gazelevsky) and drive around the circle with the corresponding antiscaling chemistry.
2.Sobralis open the stove and shompurit tube - otpaivayte cover from the power the stove entirely. Do not saw it (as is sometimes advised). Solder back at home kissing the cover much easier. A simple gas burner.
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Post by MNS on 11 Dec 2009, 10:06

agree about the radiator. but the fan and the system of air supply from the stove to the window and air intake through the radiator to the fan with very low efficiency.
Yes, and fan impeller more noise than air is passed through the radiator. tell my how to improve the entire heating system. pro-sealing clear. may be a significant improvement from the change of the impeller fan on any of the propeller model aircraft. or someone has changed the oven casing.
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Post by Victor on 11 Dec 2009, 10:26

MNS wrote: agree about the radiator. but the fan and the system of air supply from the stove to the window and air intake through the radiator to the fan with very low efficiency.
Yes, and fan impeller more noise than air is passed through the radiator. tell my how to improve the entire heating system. pro-sealing clear. may be a significant improvement from the change of the impeller fan on any of the propeller model aircraft. or someone has changed the oven casing.

In my opinion, the designers were looking for "gold seridinu. In this case, it seems to me that by reducing the efficiency of forced air intake "on the street" and not the organization circulating the air inside the cabin was solved "the problem of holes" throughout the UAZ.
It's no secret that the holes in the "staffing" UAZ bulk! Take the place of doors and tie-back pairing in the door (glass). In the same if not a sparrow flies, so a finger or even two on the street can put out. :(
Well that would be in those holes do not "inject" into a street car (in winter - cold and in summer - dust), made outside air intake through the stove. Thus, inside the cabin is created at least a little - but the excess pressure.
If uplonilsya and eliminate all dyrdochki in the car - it makes sense to think about how to do so, that would air in the stove, climbed out of the cabin.
Sam did not understand this at UAZ specifically, but there is a standard solution for stoves (hypothetically): a place for joining the stove to the air inlet and a mounting stove recharged thick washers. For example - one centimeter thick. Ie - Organized by the slit through which air is sucked out of the cabin. That circulation! ;)
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Post by jam on 11 Dec 2009, 11:26

In-air circulation is useful only when parked on site (Estesstvenno it comes zagermetezirovannom salon!) Because inevitably zapoteyut window. At Uazbuka read what they do for a thorough ventilation of a goat in the cabin - the rear stoykai for drawing moist air ventilation grilles embedded with the valve, and the stove is mounted a more efficient pump - like a snail on the chisel. By the way, somewhere here in the library Vasilych lecturing instructions with drawings like goat in the cochlea of 8 vkolhozit.
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Post by MNS on 11 Dec 2009, 22:06

printsipiapno. at UAZ fan extends the air through the radiator. and at 08 the fan pushes air in front of the radiator. so the channel is sealed after the fan to the radiator efficiency stoves were higher than in UAP. Prompt please where to look to the instructions with drawings.
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Post by jam on 12 Dec 2009, 11:05

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Post by KadavR on 16 Dec 2009, 15:53

about washing on brick http://www.delicaclub.ru/forum/index.ph ... msearch__1
Bathing in front of the stove without removing Bricks (I want to share the joy)
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Good time of day
Preface = passed the winter showed that the front stove on my machine is not operating at full strength in comparison with the salon stove (it was cool and comfortable).
Start = wonder why this unit over time did not work because it should, although past (three years ago) worked so that in 25 below zero in the car was very warm and cozy (about 26 heat), and after a time become colder (at minus 15 outside in the car just was plus 15).
I tried to flush the radiator out = made a small hole on the side the stove, opened on what he could box in front of the cabin, namostryachil drainage of polyethylene, parked on a gradient and washed the radiator good pressure vody.Gryazi was not much, but it was. Efecta to no avail, because at 14 the street from the stove to complete 32 flying at the speed (when warmed engine). And if you turn off the engine and then turn the oven temperature was initially a bit higher and then fell.
He was diagnosed = stuffed inside scum or with garbage.
After wandering on the internet, read a lot of recipes from all sorts of people about how to wash radiators in different ways. I decided to make the old caustic soda (sodium hydroxide).
Was purchased:
caustic soda = 1 kg.
Citric acid = 20 packs of 25 oz.
Galvanized pail 7 liter = 1 pc.
Gloves = 2 pairs.
Electric pump from Gazeley = 1 pc.
Boilers kWt = 1 pc.
rubber hoses = 5 meters.
clamps and other fines

Arriving at the cottage, poured antifreeze by removing the stove from the system (took two hoses from it, those that the vehicle in front) and connect hoses and bought a pump from the gazelle. End of the hose lowered into vedro.Nalil hot water 5 liters, and put the boiler in a bucket (to keep the temperature was highest). Elektropompu launched from the battery (an old) trailers on the charger. The process poshol. At the exit from the oven pressure was small (was filled).
Once the water began to boil, carefully added caustic soda 500 gr. (And said goodbye to the kettle, he's a bastard alyumyanevy and almost immediately corroded into holes), and all became fierce. I'm as much frightened at first, but everything went right. And all this explosive mixture (5 liters of boiling water and 500 grams of caustic soda) began to run on my stove. In just a few seconds the water was like a brown substance in some sort of flakes. Having buried the boiler I put a bucket on an electric stove so that the mixture is not cooled. (Yes = way better than doing it on the street, because it smells and corrosive vapors has not been canceled). Faster this mixture in one direction for 30 minutes altered the pump and began to drive the same mixture in the opposite direction for another 30 mine. After an hour sweep of the mixture at the outlet of the oven pressure was very good (compared to the beginning of the process pressure increased about two times).
After an hour cycles of alkali on the stove, I stopped potsess. Merged solution and washed his whole system (electric pump, hoses, buckets and the stove) with plenty of clean water with constant change in direction of flow.
After washing the remnants of caustic soda poured hot water and flushing the system started again. When the water has warmed almost to boiling, then carefully poured into this cycle of citric acid (all 20 bags), and repeated-hour procedure as with caustic soda (with circulation and changing the direction of flow).
Poured citric acid and washed with water system (the system that he has bungled from elektropompy, hoses, etc.).
Afterward all these operations at the exit of the oven pressure was very good.
Connecting the stove to the radiator system, vehicle, poured antifreeze fresh and warmed up car.
Total = Teperecha leaving the oven temperature at 58 rpm and 50 at idle (it was 32 to 29 rpm and at idle). Stove teperecha blowing hot air but not warm. This happiness

! WARNING! When working with caustic soda to be accurate. This alkali and if that, it will hurt!. Required to work in rubber gloves and goggles just in case.
The alkali is not aggressive to the metal and copper, but ALYUMYANY erodes the Junk Shop and allocate HYDROGEN! If you fill this mixture into the engine at once you can say goodbye to the Cylinder Head and pomp (it's about 4D56T because as we head out alyumyaniya) as I said goodbye with aluminum kettle!.

If there are any questions = velkom in PM.

Ps Lord moderators = if this issue was not a kick much (used search but not nashol), just wanted to share the joy
If such topics are not that define it please in a section that fit.

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Post by MNS on 19 Dec 2009, 11:33

Why fence hot water is not taken from the thermostat as a "chisel"? If you put the thermostat on VAZ 2110 then the hot water to the stove can be borrowed from the thermostat.
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Post by rogue on 19 Dec 2009, 12:02

carefully read
and the question: the cost
"... Caustic soda = 1 kg.
Citric acid = 20 packs of 25 oz.
Galvanized pail 7 liter = 1 pc.
Gloves = 2 pairs.
Electric pump from Gazeley = 1 pc.
Boilers kWt = 1 pc.
rubber hoses = 5 meters.
clamps and Other stuff ... "plus 4 hours of time spent not more than the cost of a new radiator stove? :P
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Post by rogue on 19 Dec 2009, 12:13

so, the radiator stove. question - 1 500 p.

pump electric gazelle - 550 p.
electroimmersion heater 1 kW - 450 p.
galvanized pail 7 yrs. - 150 p.
citric acid (if you take Chinese and wholesale) - 45 p
caustic soda 1 kg. - 50 p.
rubber hose 5 m + 2 pairs of gloves - let 50 r.
Total: 1 295 p.

pancake, 200 rubles savings !!!!!!!! :rofl:
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Post by Victor on 19 Dec 2009, 18:05

Rogue wrote: so, radiator stove. question - 1 500 p.

pump electric gazelle - 550 p.
electroimmersion heater 1 kW - 450 p.
galvanized pail 7 yrs. - 150 p.
citric acid (if you take Chinese and wholesale) - 45 p
caustic soda 1 kg. - 50 p.
rubber hose 5 m + 2 pairs of gloves - let 50 r.
Total: 1 295 p.

pancake, 200 rubles savings !!!!!!!! :rofl:

Forgot another four hours of time spent to add on.
This "entanglement" can do, if half of the items are or already have, or "stolen ".... ;)
Well, or if washing stoves zanimiatsya to make money. Then the "cost" will quickly "to fight back ".....
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Post by KadavR on 21 Dec 2009, 18:14

Rogue wrote: so, radiator stove. question - 1 500 p.

I couple cheaper 7,5 rubles ikzistu could not find a radiator stove, which we discussed ... :(
that the front of the stove, that the posterior :(

tell my OWL, where fifteen hundred of their baryzhat?? I'll take two at once! straight right now! and fpiret and vzat ... in the sense, and in front the stove, and on the back.
and then the couple go cold when the street is less than -20 degrees :(
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Post by rogue on 21 Dec 2009, 18:42

oven from UAP?
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Post by zoomko on 28 Dec 2009, 20:33

KadavR wrote:
Rogue wrote: so, radiator stove. question - 1 500 p.

I couple cheaper 7,5 rubles ikzistu could not find a radiator stove, which we discussed ... :(
that the front of the stove, that the posterior :(

tell my OWL, where fifteen hundred of their baryzhat?? I'll take two at once! straight right now! and fpiret and vzat ... in the sense, and in front the stove, and on the back.
and then the couple go cold when the street is less than -20 degrees :(


I feel sorry for you! I have a 4d56 and dubar!
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Post by Swin on 28 Dec 2009, 23:50

And, damn it! On the Volga today rode 30 km on the highway, frozen and wrapped in glass all (((extra pump is, as we move cool air blowing (((engine temperature is normal. What I do not know. Weácan AMPs.
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