About Flooding

by **Sphinxa** on 16 Mar 2010, 13:46

Well, if you come to his dacha, then you and giving ... And so - as agreed :rofl:

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by **SCREW** on 16 Mar 2010, 13:50

olimpia wrote:
SCREW wrote: I would be where the thread at the Komsomolsk catch ...

me or giving?)))

Do something to me why ... So that will wash away and disappear ... An engineer with the gaff will ... :rofl:

by **KadavR** on 16 Mar 2010, 14:34

Anna wrote:
Mick wrote: In the upper reaches of the Tom and Chulym sharp rise of water! Water is flowing over the ice!
So, very soon, and before we will reach

Hmm ... need to quickly redo all cases that require trips to the city

Yes, but it soon will have nowhere to go ...

by **Mick** on 18 Mar 2010, 11:27

The snow, which we have dropped, the level of our flood does not affect

on 18 Mar 2010, 11:30 by **Lemon** on 18 Mar 2010, 11:30

Do not die, drowned Duck! :rofl:

by **mkot** on 18 Mar 2010, 11:31

Mick wrote: The snow, which we have dropped, the level of our flood does not affect

Affects, we do not live in the mountains ....

by **engineer** on 18 Mar 2010, 11:34

Mick wrote: The snow, which we have dropped, the level of our flood does not affect

concerned as nivliyaed? Well panyatno kosmaz then bolche vliyaniye akazyvayed, maritima snow can prinibrech ....

by **mkot** on 18 Mar 2010, 11:35

that already Ushaika watershed in general all we have, if we talk about the level of torment, then, yes, but it affects very much ...

by **Mick** on 18 Mar 2010, 11:39

Engineer wrote:
Mick wrote: The snow, which we fall, the level of our flood does not affect

concerned as nivliyaed?

The water level at us depends on number of snow in the Altai and the intensity of its melting (I'm talking about major rivers). And that snow that falls here, affects the water level only in swamps, lakes and small rivers

on 18 Mar 2010, 11:52 by **Lemon** on 18 Mar 2010, 11:52

Mick wrote:
Engineer wrote:
Mick wrote: The snow, which we have dropped, the level of our flood does not affect

concerned as nivliyaed "

The water level at us depends on number of snow in the Altai and the intensity of its melting (I'm talking about major rivers). And those snow that falls here, affects the water level only in swamps, lakes and small rivers

Here there and considered the levels of flooding Tomsk. And what Ushaika, Kirghiz and a couple of small creeks rise no one predicted :rofl:

by **Mick** on 18 Mar 2010, 11:58

lemon wrote: Here there and felt the levels of flooding Tomsk. And what Ushaika, Kirghiz and a couple of small creeks rise no one predicted

Why?

by **KadavR** on 18 Mar 2010, 12:07

lemon wrote: Here there and felt the levels of flooding Tomsk. And what Ushaika, Kirghiz, and have a lot of small creeks rise no one predicted

predicted.
Here such things were considered:

Groundwater flooding
accumulation of meltwater
flooding of small rivers, annually
flooding of small rivers, in the breakout / overflow dam
flood 7.5m (10%) of the left bank of the Tom river floodplain (Tomskgeomonitoring)
flood 8.0m (5%) flooded by floodwater during erosion / overflow dam (by city)
flood 8.7m (1%) of the left bank floodplain Tom river (Tomskgeomonitoring), flooded by floodwater during erosion / overflow dam (by city)
flood 9.5m (1%) flooded by floodwater during erosion / overflow dam (according to area)

on 19 Mar 2010, 10:42 by **Lemon** on 19 Mar 2010, 10:42

KadavR wrote: Here such things were considered:

Groundwater flooding
accumulation of meltwater
flooding of small rivers, annually

Well I Do not Know what's considered

Just to Stepanovka Continent builds 16 etazhki at filling stations, so here they are ground each year floods. And a map about it is not even mentioned :roll:

can of course at this time and did not drown :rofl:

But there is another lake near me! Here again, the usual level, the lack centimes 20-30 that would pass through the dam leak. and this year I think it successfully blur and all the water from the lake, and Predtechki zone natural reset for this very construction

So I think there is not ice accountants :mad:

by **KadavR** on 19 Mar 2010, 11:17

for every Ushaika-Kyrgyz flooding area according to local administration believes

on 19 Mar 2010, 11:24 by **Lemon** on 19 Mar 2010, 11:24

KadavR wrote: for every Ushaika-Kyrgyz flooding area according to local administration believes

Very similar

by **SCREW** on 19 Mar 2010, 15:45

And somebody Mauger specifically explain to name the reasons why predicting this year's "big water"??

by on 19 Mar **SCREW** 2010, 15:50

Judging from the drifts, the snow, I would say less than in other years, such low temperatures for such a long period in my life I do not remember ... I think that the earth was frozen to such an extent that the garden in July, will dig, to melt it means to be a long and tedious, where a large water come from?

by **Mick** on 19 Mar 2010, 16:00

Characteristics of snow cover
Western Region
Water storage in snow cover the southern parts of the Omsk region is predominantly 50-97% rule for the rest of 90-110% of normal.
Water storage in the snowpack in the basin of the Ob basically amounted to 81 - 133%, the largest (144-158%) - in the basins of Yaya, Inya, the lowest (67 - 79%) - in rivers Tym, Burla, Karasuk.
The central part of the region
Water storage in the snowpack in the basin of the Yenisei River are unevenly distributed.
In the republic of Tuva, they are 80-130%, in the republic of Khakassia - 50-95%, mestami110 120% rule.
In Krasnoyarsk Krai, water reserves in snow cover in the southern regions are mostly 70-115%, in the mountains of Western and Eastern Sayan - 120-140% norm.
High snow reserves are stored in the central region, where they are 120-200%, in some places on the field sites - 240-360% of the norm.
At the north edge, in the Yenisei and the North-Yenisei region, water reserves in snow cover is 85-130%, in the Turukhansk area - 55-95% of the norm.
In Evenkiya Taimyr snow reserves are 50-100%, in some places - 105-125% of the norm.
The eastern part of the region
On the territory of Irkutsk region, water supplies in the snow in the river basins Biryusa are 170% standards in river basins Ia, Oka, Uda, Irkut Kitoy, White 120-148% of the norm, in the basin Kirenga and Lena snow reserves amount to 106-131% of the norm . On the Lower Tunguska River (in the region) 80% of the norm in the river basin Vitim 70%.
The snow cover was 5-20 cm, in the north of Transbaikalia, eastern, south-eastern Trans-Baikal region, Pribaikalsky district of the Republic of Buryatia, 25-48 cm, which is about 2-16 cm and more multiyear averages.

by **SCREW** on 19 Mar 2010, 16:06

Well, we have all the same app on the rise in the Tom bit higher, but Ushaika then the source should not have ...
So do not wash away my cottage?
:horse:

by **Mick** on 19 Mar 2010, 16:12

In the autumn of 2009 (8 th to 10 th November) in the Tomsk region p. Tom has been rare hydrological events - autumn flood. Freshet accompanied by the steady destruction of the ice, a sharp rise of the water and the formation of dangerous ice phenomena. The reason for such a rare event served as fell in the upper river. Tomi rainfall during the period November 3-5, ranged from 1,5 to 3,0 decadal norms. As a result, p. Tomi and its tributaries formed rain-flood height 1,6 - 6,0 m in the background of intensive ice formation in the second half of the first decade of November. Allowance rises in water levels in rivers basin Tomi reached 255 cm (Tomsk), which are extremely high for November, with a recurrence 1 time in 90 years.
Observed in autumn 2009 on the river ice breaking up a double. Tom was accompanied by the formation of dangerous ice phenomena (ridges, burrs on the shores of the ice). The observed rare hydrological events, accompanied by the release of water at low floodplain areas, high zashugovannostyu channel, the formation of ice hummocks and ridges (up to 4-5 meters).
A similar pattern was observed forming ice field in the region. Tom is 11 times over the past half century (in 1887, 1891, 1894, 1898,1919,1920, 1929, 1932, 1940, 1942, 1964.). In 8 cases out of 10 in the spring opening of the river Tom held at high water levels and was accompanied by powerful jams and floods.
In the area of flooding and ice effects, with high probability, will fall:
- Houses in the settlements of the Tomsk region - the Black River, Kolarov, Kazanka; in the city of Tomsk on the River. Tom - Lower Warehouse and Eushta on small rivers (Kirghiz, Ushaika) - Micro areas Stepanovka, Zavarzin, East;
- Highway, connecting the regional center with NP Baturino, Vershinin and Yarskoe.

by **SCREW** on 19 Mar 2010, 16:22

Published Ushaika will flow back? From Tomi water zavrzino coming or what? I do not remember, but something like drop a relief between Kornilov and mouth Ushaika 32 meters!

by **1,96 m** on 19 Mar 2010, 20:19

SCREW wrote: And somebody Mauger specifically explain to name the reasons why predicting this year's "big water"??

An adult man, and questions for children. :rofl:

Let me explain. The snow this year is smaller than normal to the naked eye can not see, as in years past it a little cleaned up and exported, but this is not. In the best case on the side of the road grader shove. And as always on the road ruts and drifts, it seems that a lot of snow fallen. And the very fact he did not fall when it was. Nearly three months were cold. Nearly three months - not a snowflake. This year we took from the base of snow every three less than normal. Therefore, the objective reasons for the flood seems to be no. If it were not for the autumn ice. What is the breaking of the ice fall, and why because it should be a big flood or anyone really knows. Seen from the side that formed hummocks and consequently increased the thickness of the ice, then in my opinion is a complete crap. If it were not for these hummocks, the water would have frozen to great depths. And toschina ice that torosomi that without them, should still be about the same. And now look the other way. There is a budget with which you want as much money to steal. Preparing for floods - odnin of the best ways. Allocated 210 million or more devil knows, was brought to Stepanovka 50 KAMAZ sand, Uzbeks packed them in bags. Tom drove the tractor around communal bridge two days later it was pulled. They raised the cry that the situation extremely. Spent 10.5 million All. Misc sawed. Even if the flood happens officials not guilty. Creek raised, did everything they could have allocated a lot of money, a lot of things done (what did you only see on paper, as all will be swept away) - an element that helped. If there is flooding, then it is a great place predpavodkovaya training. That is, in any case, officials will be in the heroes and with quite good pasterns. That's the whole truth about the floods.
PS Two weeks ago in Tomsk was delivered ... but oh dear pig influenza vaccine. Which was spent oh .. Naya lot of budget money (interest amount rollback).

by **Osip** on 19 Mar 2010, 20:24

SCREW wrote: So do not wash away my cottage?

Wash away the need

by **mkot** on 19 Mar 2010, 23:34

The snow was above the norm back in 20th of December, with much higher average, vsmysle year rather than the current date ..
The fact that the snow is not taken out three months no indication that he is not, it drifted first winter ever ..
As for ice, the ice is on the flood plain including the autumn and the flood water and ice, not the best level of impact on the spring flood ...
Now, on the river, ice is on the bottom and top, it is very much there and there, up to three meters as the bottom and top, if you look at the river can be seen nevoruzhennym look ...
Well, money, money of course a matter otmoyut, as under any other "right."

by **Halilych** on 20 Mar 2010, 00:13

1,96 m wrote: snow this year less than normal

A neighbor in his garage nearly all the winter snow was not cleaned, as a result of snow accumulated 50-60 cm!
In his garage in the past years I was cleaning the snow every day, twice ...
And this year - sure have .... and freebie ...
At least - not snow more than in past years.
And the fact that the river was frozen to the bottom, so she had both freeze to the island ...
And Zavarzin constantly Topylo ...

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